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Post by ArmyOfOne on Aug 27, 2005 3:35:18 GMT -5
when can we expect the "new" shorter shorts version to come out? ? Huh, huh....are we there yet? huh?
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Aug 18, 2005 22:00:35 GMT -5
GOOD JOB on making the shorts a little shorter. Most of the usualy shorts are WAY too long for the stocky5'10" guy who weighs 210lb.
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Aug 18, 2005 3:17:56 GMT -5
glad to see the new shorts are in! So far none of the pictures show the whole shorts in them, just small areas. I'm sure you are going to put more up soon. It'll be nice to see the overall picure of the shorts on a model too, in different positions/poses.
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Jul 22, 2005 23:51:32 GMT -5
Vince....I'm about to break down and buy some new shorts here pretty soon....can you give us any idea when the shorts will be out?
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Jul 16, 2005 21:57:52 GMT -5
I found some great shorts at BasRutten.tv....They just came out and i was thinking about getting a pair. Check them out and let me know how you think they stack up to the ones you will be coming out with. I believe the bas rutten ones have a slit up the side too. If you think your's will be coming out real soon i'll hold off.
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Jul 14, 2005 2:27:08 GMT -5
Thanks vince
---Ultraman
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Jul 13, 2005 0:30:01 GMT -5
Ok...It's been exactly three days now....so, I thought i'd be annoying and ask for an update. I have high hopes for a good design Vince. I'll definitely make an order if they look good too.
---Ultraman
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Aug 29, 2005 22:15:31 GMT -5
Seriously, Fedor is amazing....He really isn't very imposing looking at all. He kind of looks like a chubby/stocky guy with a teddy bear face....But d**n!
Kicks/Punches/throws/subs.....How can you solve this guys puzzle? There seems to be no weakness in his technique and ferocity. AND on top of all that, he is ice cold while performing. And perhaps his greatest weapon of all is his stamina and conditioning. He can bring it harder, faster, longer than any of his opponents. He just does not tire out.
It is now reported he will have surgery right away to repair his right hand chronic injury. Lets hope he is able to make a full come back.
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Sept 3, 2005 4:05:56 GMT -5
How did the camp go? Was the turn out OK? Did you tape it?
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Jul 15, 2005 23:51:34 GMT -5
That sucks! Hopefully he fully recovers. Rotator injuries are some of the worst. He was one of the big reasons i was going to try to make it. Who will take his place in teaching his portion? Are you going to do that yourself Vince??
--Ultraman
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Post by ArmyOfOne on May 27, 2005 1:56:55 GMT -5
B.B. in JiuJitsu....yes I did... Part of the reason I achieved it is my undying devotion to study every instructional and book that i can get my hands on. This accelerates and enhances my learning. I've found that everybody knows different things and the only way to truely get comprehensive knowledge is train with different people, and learn from all the instructionals/books you can get. Visualization techniques solidify the techiniques you learn during your daily life as you re-enact them during the day, at work, etc. Also, a good grappling dummy allows you to tighten up some subs. and work on your sub.-chains as long/hard as you want. I've created a JiuJitsu and fighting "laboratory" right in my home. Which makes training easy and makes me do it much more often.
By the way, I think you said the leg lock DVD's would ship out on the 25th? Are they ready to go?
As you can see....even though i have watched your old leg lock DVD many times over and studied it in depth. I feel like i "need" to have the new one right away. Otherwise i get anxious and feel like maybe there's something new that i don't know about.
My goal in life is to know every technique, and every variation of each technique, and be able to chain them together seamlessly without the slightest contemplation.
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Post by ArmyOfOne on May 23, 2005 19:02:24 GMT -5
Hello once more from "SoCal"... That's kind of funny that "Professor" and I pretty much signed up and posted at the same time (we know each other). I just signed up last night......
signed---- "Vince from San Diego"
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Jul 28, 2005 1:20:41 GMT -5
You don't need to do a lot of weight training for MMA in general. Focus maily on cardio: Sprints, hill running, stadiums, jogging, swimming, eliptical trainer, etc......And rolling on the mat during Jiu Jitsu, AND kickboxing and bag work......If you still have time after that to do some weight training then focus on "multi joint" types of lifts. I'll give you just a couple right now that are good, that will also work cardio:
-power cleans with an olympic bar -Dead lifts
I would focus more on plyometrics though (body weight exercises)
--Ultraman
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Jan 20, 2006 4:17:34 GMT -5
i think you should train with reality in mind, but also realize that reality will probably never happen. At least if you are smart enough, have good sense, and know how to handle situations with verbal tact and grace, as well as knowing how to simply avoid trouble.
That being said, i think you should primarily train for reasons that motivate you personally.... getting fit, winning titles, self defense knowledge, etc....
a real fight of course is a wild sprint that will rise up suddenly and ususally should be avoided at all costs. Normally people that are intent on fighting will almost always have "back up"....such as another friend(s), or a knife/gun, etc..... The caliber of individual that will pick fights in public usually will have some of these tricks up their sleeves.
good grappling skills, takedowns, throws, and muay thai stand up are excellent to train in so that you can at least strike with somebody, and have a chance to control standup/takedowns.....
after that, in a street fight i wouldn't say necessarily that neck cranks are really that great....yeah, they are effective, but as soon as the guy says "OK stop", and you let go, he will go right back to fighting. That is unless you are willing to make a person a quadraplegic for the rest of their lives like Christopher Reeves and breathing with a ventilator. In that case crank it all the way.....but you would really have to be in an extreme situation to put on a neck crank all the way. Normally if you release a neck crank the person isn't disabled after that. Unless you have such perfect control that you can sprain a guys neck without causeing permanent injury (a fine line that few can walk).....you either have to choke somebody almost unconcious, or twist their shoulder with a kimura, etc. so that they have trouble using it for a brief period....this pain/dysfunction will make them stop....
more than likely your first choice won't be to roll on the pavement to get a heel hook, but if you are going to get a leg lock then a heel hook is good, but you are potentially going to eat a lot of punches with bare fists while you are trying to lock it up. And you would have to be willing to permanently injure them b/c of the same reason listed above..... if you don't pick a sub that will not only hurt them but either disable them, or "near disable" them and cause severe pain and temporary disability after you release it, then you will just have to continue the fight once you let go.....
In most situations i believe that we would pick a sub that "nearly disables" and causes short term disability to end a fight....which subs those are could be debated.
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Jan 7, 2006 3:59:35 GMT -5
go in fast off of the initial bell....be looking directly at his legs and have your head down, let him know you are going directly for the fast tackle takedown without any hesitation or set up. Telegraph it really well so he can get ready to sprawl. Now "feint" the takedown by dropping levels and going fairly far down in a fast manner as you are running in. When he sprawls out, you quickly raise your level back up (at the same time he's going down) and reach behind his head and snap his head "down in the hole" and attain a position where your chest is on the back of his head and your arms are controlling his torso. Smash him down further if you can. Don't bother going for the guillotine while he is so fresh unless you are good at it and it's VERY open. Attain a body lock with both of your arms encircling his torso below his arm pits. Now lock your hands together and "roll him" onto his back as he try's to rise up and struggle out of the lock, and then mount him at the same time as you roll him.
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Dec 14, 2005 2:27:43 GMT -5
Just wanted Vince to know that his techniques do work. In particular i've always meant to try that technique you taught on your MMA tape on the clinch where you basically put one wrist into the other guys elbow bend and then finish by pushing him down with your shoulder and then just finish him with a bicep slicer. I've always thought that some MMA guys should try that one as people are always using the clinch so much now.
I had not had any good chances to work that one b/c rarely do people attain that position in sub grappling in standing and normally you might train boxing or muay thai, but not full on MMA.
Well i got my chance tonight against a purple belt. He is one of the instructors at a new place i just signed up with tonight. He was wearing a Gi, and i was not, he tied up hard around the neck and was trying to pull me in/down. I just make a quick powerful move to lock in the slicer, and drove him to the ground in a VERY painful submission for him.
By the way Vince, i knew this guy had a good guard, and the very next "go around" he was kind of butt scooting towards me (inviting/pulling into guard)....Reflex just kicked in. I've been wondering if you could pull the "upside down rolling figure four toe hold" from that position being more in front of him (versus inside the open guard). Anyway, i just put the right hand on top of his ankle, then flung my left leg under his right, and attempted the roll. couldn't get all the way through with the roll, but finished a STRONG ankle lock, in kind of an upside down position.
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Dec 14, 2005 12:56:55 GMT -5
bas rutten does a yearly camp called Paradise Warriors Retreat and "Benny the Jet" is always one of the instructors.
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Dec 14, 2005 3:54:19 GMT -5
personally i would NOT recommend going to Thailand unless you have all kinds of extra time and money.
First i would recommend that you get a number of instructional videos including those of Rob Kaman, and some other top rated muay thai fighters video sets. This should be more than enough to keep you busy for a LONG time trying to master the techniques and training methods.....
THEN after you have done that and feel you can no longer progress and STILL need to add another dimension to your game.....then you can go to Thailand...... But even then, unless you plan on being a professional fighter in the big leagues (not just small shows), then i'm sure the tapes and instruction by a qualified MT specialist should be WAY MORE than enough......IMO.
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Nov 1, 2005 4:38:00 GMT -5
most people that are familiar with leg locks understand that the reverse HH is by far more dangerous than the regular one. I've seen it done successfully in an MMA fight, but the guy doing it had to take a number of punches to the face at close range as he was setting it up. But as soon as he had proper position he just laid back and quickly tapped the guy.
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Oct 31, 2005 1:14:50 GMT -5
Vince....i'll try to explain this positioning a little better so you can get the gist..... Lets say you and your opponent are both on your backs, with your heads in opposite directions. YOUR legs are figure foured over both of his legs with your ankles lets say crossing on your right (his left). NOW, you grab his right leg and cross it OVER his left, and use your right arm to hold it down under your arm/shoulder. Now you take your left hand and place it UNDER his left leg (which is now on your left side), and push UP, thus hyperextending the knee b/c the right leg is crossed OVER the left and you are holding it down......The next sequence of maneuvers, or it could be done first i suppose, would be to uncross his legs, Now his left leg is on the right side of your body and vice verse with his right leg. Lets say his left ankle is trapped under your right shoulder/arm, now you get a sort of guillotine lock by putting your right hand/wrist under his achilles/ankle area and cinching it up with your other hand, now you turn the entire complex inwards. ALSO, from this latter position you could just put your right hand on the very end of his foot and use your left hand to figure four it, then go for the toe hold. Or you could get a heel hook i'm pretty sure.
So right there you have 4 good potential subs from the single hold down position. It shouldn't be that difficult to attain that figure four position and he can't really reverse you or strike you at all.
AND one more reason that is such a good position, is b/c you can get it fairly eaily i believe, and if the above subs aren't working, you can easily switch to some of the more standard leg lock positioning fairly easily, Whereas you could NOT switch from standard leg lock positioning INTO the figure four position as described.
Hopefully that explanation makes sense so you can comment.
As far as the Arlovski sub goes.....I remeber in the post fight interview Tim stated that he heard and felt some popping in the ankle while it was happening so he knew he needed to tap before something else got broken. As far as the position went, it is pretty much as follows::: Arlovski on Tims right side in standing position, Tim with his right leg up in air. Arlovski uses his right arm to overhook Tim's right ankle (towards the end) , Now Arlovski puts his right leg underhooking Silvia's right leg and puts his left leg over top of Silva, Now Arlovski torques his own body to his right side while INTERNALLY rotating Silvia's right leg/ankle and thusly turning Tim on his own left side to try and avoid the pressure of the twist. Now Arlovski just bends back and arches using a "ballistic" type of pull on the joint (not a steadily increasing and constant pressure), He is kind of "yanking" on the pull in short back/fourth pulls to create a very sharp pain on the joint.
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Oct 30, 2005 6:19:37 GMT -5
I know that in MMA especially many people don't like to try for leg locks b/c of some many opportunities the opponent has for striking (arms, legs, heels, etc.) , and of course if you lose position you could be reversed.
For the most part i think this is true, especially with straight ankle locks, and heel hooks, as well as knee bars. Which are the bread and butter leg locks for many.
Just the other day as i was leafing through the Gene Lebel submission encyclopedia (as i frequently do), i spent some time thinking about this quandry. And in the last section of the book called "better late than never". Moves that were an after thought i guess i saw a move that i didn't pay much attention to before. But after looking carefully at it, i think it could be a great leg lock position that is very safe and could be used effectively in MMA as well.
Basically, from the guys open guard you bring both of your legs over and interlock both of his legs in yours while crossing your ankles. He can't really move from this point. Then you move to an outside figure four of your legs. From this point you can easily get a knee bar by simply crossing one of his legs over the other and pressing up on the other ankle (kind of an upside down knee bar), or you could go for ankle crank on the other leg. All the while he doesn't really have any offensive counter opportunities and you can take your time a bit going through your submission sequences.
I'd be interested in knowing what Vince thinks of this position. And if there are any other sub. opportunities he can think of from this position. I know in his DVD i think i remember a part on this, but not quite the same variation as in the book. On Vince's variation i think you plant both feet on the opponents chest, then press on his toes and jam his legs/feet/toes down under his body, or go for the figure four ankle lock, unless i'm mistaken
For reference, in the Gene Lebell book on the Encyclopedia of Finishing Holds (expanded edition), the page is 526, chap. 16, and the move is called a "figure four leg hold (butt to butt), knee bar and outside ankle crank".
While i'm at it, i'd be VERY interested to know if Vince has ever seen the achilles hold/ankle lock that Arlovski did on Tim Silvia in their fairly recent UFC fight. I'm a*suming you saw it. I've personally never seen that leg lock before but the angle and leverage points appeared to be very effective. Have you seen it? Is it a good variation? It also was one of the few GOOD leg lock positions that you could take in a fight. No leg or arm striking opportunitiess for his opponent....Very innovative by Arlovski.
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Oct 14, 2005 21:33:18 GMT -5
just wondering if Vince or anybody has ever seen an achilles lock done by clasping the hands together (fingers interlocked), as opposed to a gable grip, or three finger grip, or any other kind of grip. I recently saw a photo of a technique where the guy was in an outside figure four position on his opponent, and had the ankle/leg in a position where he could have easily gone for the outside heel hook, but instead he was doing the achilles lock. It seemed like the angle of pressure to the leg was at a bit better with the clasped hands grip, and the radial bone on the thumb side of your arm was hitting the mark much better.... here's a link to the pic..... www.lockflow.com/article_view.php?id=537
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Oct 9, 2005 15:12:16 GMT -5
I would like to know what position they were in when Ricco used that submission. A common position for the "smother choke" as i described above in the 3rd post on this thread. I've seen it used a couple of times in competition. Was this the one you're referring to?
What i'm talking about is actually using your hand (s) to pinch off and cover his breathing pa*sages. There has to be a good way to do this that somebody has been taught before..
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Sept 22, 2005 19:32:04 GMT -5
and by the way...just to add a little to my last post. As people become more aware of RNC and how to defend, we need to have many more options. Right now people still back mount opponents and always go straight for RNC, sometimes without being proficient in any other subs from the back, or just out of plain habit. Everybody knows RNC is coming and some people (ie, Dean Lister) are virtually impossible to choke with RNC. So as defense techniques improve across the board i think we need to start looking at other good subs from the back mount (ie, hand over mouth/nose, face locks, neck cranks, arm bars, triangle arm bars from back mount, forearm "short" chokes, etc.
Because, if you keep trying long enough to get an RNC that's "not there" your opponent will escape....it's only a matter of time usually.
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Sept 22, 2005 14:41:02 GMT -5
After thinking about it for a bit. I think I'm going to start working on these types of mouth and nose covering kind of chokes. If it's legal i'm not going to worry if it's cheap or not. As i started thinking about it I can remember two occa*sions that i've seen smother types of chokes. Although these were both the version where you are in the mount and them you put one arm underneath the guys neck and grab your other elbow crease then place the free hand on the top of the guys head to stabilize then you put your chest in the guys face. These types of chokes are made VERY effective and lethal by wearing a T shirt (one of the only good reasons to wear a t shirt that i can think of as far as submissions go). That is b/c the t shirt will be kind of sucked up into the guys nose when you are on him. Kind of providing an air tight seal.
But two examples i can think of where this kind of choke was used was in the 2003 ADCC championships where Pe De Pano submitted Marcelo Garcia. Pe de Pano was having a hard time controlling garcia until he got him in this position and put his chest on his face. it was a good controlling tactic that led to a sub. Also, in the Pankration championships in Ca. in 2004, i saw the guy that won the LHW division perform this move on one of his opponents. It worked very well....sometimes it's a "slow choke" but you are in solid position and it's easy to hold and hard to be rolled from this point. Note that in both of the above examples the guys were wearing T shirts and had no problem controlling opponents during these slow chokes.
i have never seen a mouth/nose cover done, but i don't think it's b/c it doesn't work, i think it's more b/c people feel embarra*sed to do it and they think it's cheap. I think this could be a VERY fast choke/tap if you get it down. And it could be done from lot's of positions.
But remember....At one time leg locks were considered very cheap subs. And in some circles they still are. I think as sub grappling advances people will be looking for that competitive edge and will try to get it in any way possible within the rules.
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Sept 19, 2005 3:08:01 GMT -5
Recently i've been thinking of tons of ways to cover a persons mouth/nose as a smother submission. I'm wondering why we never see this. I'm sure that in some circles it's not considered "cool" but seriously, i wouldn't hesitate one moment to pull it off in a competition.
I would imagine that from mount, back mount, and even when you are in your guard there would be ways to pull it off. Anybody got any info. on this. Any situations that you feel it would work best? Any special technique or insight into this.
From the back you could come up with lots of ways to cover him up.
From the front i think a modified version of the front x-choke would work best, almost like you are doing an arm triangle, but without the arm, and then put your free hand over his face instead of behind your own head (as in an arm triangle)
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Aug 24, 2005 1:16:13 GMT -5
OK.....I'll start this off. For starters you could try a maneuver similar to the one D. Terrell did on Lindland....running out to meet him,,,going for a fake shot to the legs and coming over the top with a overhand right....because you know he'll sprawl when he see's it coming.
Another one is a REALLY good fake shot the legs to get a quick sprawl response, which you KNOW you will get. Now you quickly tie him up with a head and arm hold and work from there. Possible anaconda choke, guillotine, etc. But from here i personally would not go for guillotine. I would keep head AND arm control and work some type of sub that gave me higher control in case he got out. Or I would work to push him down from that position and just go for top ground control.
All in all, i don't understand why nobody uses his great sprawl AGAINST him either in the manner i've described or in a similar fashion....just makes sense to me.
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Aug 24, 2005 1:03:39 GMT -5
Almost nobody seems to be able to solve this puzzle. Liddel won't let himself get cornered on the cage and tied up. He sprawls well when attacked. From his three losses that i've seen he looks TERRIBLE on the ground, despite what people say about his ground skills. When he was actually ON the ground he got controlled and worked.
It seems that Diego Sanchez can take anybody down at will almost. Would a similar approach for Liddels opponents work well? Sometimes i think that Liddel opponents should study Diego to get some ideas on taking down a good striker.
Just imagine....the champ is VERY beatable on the ground. Get Liddel there and he is a mere mortal. If you were fighting him for the championship how would you get him there? And why has nobody been able to implement a successful takedown game plan against Chuck? The cage gives a big advantage in taking your opponent down vs. ropes and UFC fighters STILL can't do it.
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Aug 23, 2005 19:31:35 GMT -5
but for sub grappling it would be OK right? .......Have you ever tried to get this move in practice/training. Or have you ever taught this move?
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Aug 23, 2005 13:57:38 GMT -5
www.lockflow.com/article_view.php?id=366Vince check out this move i found. It appears to be similar to the one you do from the guard with the rib crushing done with the legs. I wonder if it works. Judging from who is using it, it seems like it might be a good one. Have you ever seen it before? ....I haven't.
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