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Post by stanimal on May 22, 2005 20:33:23 GMT -5
Vince, about six to nine months ago over on the ADCC forum you posted about a submission from the guard that if I remember correctly involved straightening the legs and rotating the knees inward. I was trying this while rolling with a firend today and wasn'tdoing something right. Do I need to move to a higher guard and attack the rib cage, or do I stay just above the hip bones? Or have I mangled the description so badly you have no clue what I am talking about.
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Post by Vince on May 23, 2005 14:50:24 GMT -5
Stanimal,
The rib crush is one of my favorite techniques. It it rediculously easy to do IF you know how to do it right. If you can do it correctly and someone is simply in your guard... you've got em. My 100 pound wife can make me submit if I'm in her guard with it... it is all technique. When rolling I rarely even do it anymore because it's so easy it's cheesy.
It requires a lot more technical understand to correctly do than it would first appear. It is NOT just squeezing your opponent with your legs while he/ she is in your guard. It would be hard to convey how to do it right without showing you. I remember once I did it in a Machado BJJ tournament around 1998 and the guy wouldn't tap out. I slowly increased the pressure... from about 5% of my maximum strength... to 10%... to 15%... to 20%... and then snap, he ribs broke on one side and he began tapping and moaning in pain. I mention this to show how easy it is to do if done correctly... not that I would ever brag about hurting someone. I expected him to tap but I guess he'd never seen the technique before. Even the Machado brothers, who know a million plus techniques, immediatly ran over and asked me to show them how to do it as they had never seen it done before.
I have a MMA seminar tape in the rmata.com store that shows how to do it in detail. I will give a brief description here for you though;
- Your on bottom guard. - You get the center of your opponents chest touching the center of yours. You do this by getting 1 or 2 underhooks (I prefer 1). - You walk your legs up to his bottom ribs. - Here is the part that everyone messes up at first. You EXTEND your legs STRAIGHT UP while you keep his chest on yours. The meaty portion of your inner thighs must be touching his bottom ribs.
If you do all of this correctly then you won't need to apply much pressure at all and he will be tapping while your only using a small amount of your total crushing potential. If you are doing anything wrong then he wont tap even though your trying 100%. Remember... you cannot let your opponent sit up or back away from you when you do this... that is the defense to it. You must extend your legs straight up in the air... not back at an angle.
I have never taught this to anyone that did it right the first time, so good luck getting it right by just reading this. However after they practice it and let me help correct their technique the light clicks and it becomes just too easy to do.
There is a very similar one that you do when you have an opponents back that Gene LeBell showed me, but thats another story. It is on the MMA Seminar tape in the RMATA store also.
Let me know how it goes! Good luck and try it VERY SLOWLY at first.
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Post by Rex on Jun 5, 2005 23:19:29 GMT -5
Hey my bro you know you show grap the digital camera and do a technique of the month bro and show us some cool never before seen stuff
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Post by Vince on Jun 6, 2005 1:40:21 GMT -5
Sounds like a good idea. How would I get it from the digital camera onto the RMATA website?
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Post by BillCogswell on Jun 6, 2005 6:13:06 GMT -5
Vince, just download from the camera right onto the computer (via your usb cable) and then you can add it to the website from there. If you don't know how to do that let me know and I'll give you directions.
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Post by Rex on Jun 7, 2005 6:04:42 GMT -5
Yeah what Bill said =)
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Post by Rex on Jun 10, 2005 3:21:21 GMT -5
wooohooooo I did and I never seen it done before...Vince your right man that is so easy
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Post by Vince on Jun 10, 2005 4:36:27 GMT -5
Rex... that is really great. Your feedback makes it worth posting.
Stanimal... any luck with it so far?
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Post by fogster on Jun 10, 2005 9:42:55 GMT -5
I will give this a go too.
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Post by stanimal on Jun 13, 2005 17:55:43 GMT -5
Hi Vince, sorry it's taken so long to reply. I'm batting around 50% with it. The toughest part is just feeling where to locate my knees and legs. Most often when I don't get it, I'm just below the floating ribs. Thanks for the pointers.
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Post by fogster on Jul 7, 2005 19:48:38 GMT -5
Tried this today, got VERY close. But, unfortunately, not close enough yet.
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Post by Vince on Jul 8, 2005 13:48:27 GMT -5
Foggy,
This really is one that needs to be gone over in person. If your getting very close then a few minor adjustments would make it work. Make sure his chest is over yours and your legs are extending straight up (not back at all). The little details on this one make a world of difference.
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Post by fogster on Jul 8, 2005 16:03:50 GMT -5
Thanks Vince, I believe my legs were not straight up, plus I could not get his chest close enough. This guy was strong.
To be honest, I had forgotten the fine details of the manouvre, but tried it anyway.
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