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Post by Rex on Apr 7, 2004 19:59:39 GMT -5
Hey when you guys are rolling around and stuff what is/are your fav submissions to go for?
mine are ankle lock and knee bar and lastly the heel hook ;D
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Post by Al on Apr 8, 2004 12:24:15 GMT -5
ankle lock I train with BJJ guys, and they are horribly susceptible for at least the first 30-40 times you do it to them.....open the guard, get subbed by the ankle lock.
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Post by Vince on Apr 8, 2004 13:58:20 GMT -5
I dont know that I have a favorite. I catch the upside down toe hold a lot... too easy.
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Post by ICS Joe on Apr 9, 2004 16:04:02 GMT -5
I have to agree with Rex and Al; training with most "traditional" BJJ guys makes lower body submissions some of my most favorite (and easy) targets.
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Post by Rex on Apr 14, 2004 23:05:20 GMT -5
Geeez
I know theres a few more out there. Dont be scared post
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Post by JW on May 5, 2004 22:27:56 GMT -5
Biceps Cutter!!!!!!!!!
If you like ankle locks you wont like to see this one:)
If anybody tries the staight leglock or tries to pa*s gaurd it spells doom.... (me laughing...)
Others , Short leg ankle lock, belly out ankle lock, Ezikel choke with the Gi. Omoplata sweeps. I'll stop now. JW
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Post by Vince on May 5, 2004 23:03:04 GMT -5
JW,
Are you talking about a short leg scissor when your opponent goes for a straight ankle lock? Like a bicep cutter but only on the knee?
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Post by BillCogswell on May 17, 2004 6:34:43 GMT -5
I tend to favor neck cranks.
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Post by DKR on Jul 5, 2004 16:35:37 GMT -5
Arm/head triangle from the guard
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Post by Steve on Jul 13, 2004 0:33:04 GMT -5
Hi, everyone this is my first post. So bare with me.
Hi JW, and Vince Steve Crawford
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Post by Vince on Jul 13, 2004 2:48:35 GMT -5
Steve,
Great to have you here. If you would, go to the sign in-intro thread and let everyone know about yourself. See ya soon.
Vince
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Post by royce on Jan 11, 2005 16:51:34 GMT -5
I like going to a bicep pinch from an armbar attempt. Most apponents always grab their own wrist when faced with an armbar attempt, easily setting up the bicep pinch.
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Post by getgoin on May 6, 2005 1:16:18 GMT -5
My favorite submission of all time is the greatest of all submissions. I smile everytime I get this submission, and with out fail I might add.
It's the one where he taps out.
I personally don't care what it is, or if theres a name, just tap out. Neck crank, choke, arm bar, leg lock, what ever, JUST TAP.
Basically what I'm saying is just go with it, my favorite is what I catch that opponent in at that time.
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Post by stanimal on May 21, 2005 20:02:56 GMT -5
I like to use a body squeeze. Basically you have your opponent on hos back and you secure his head and near arm in a headlock. You reach back with your other hand and hook one of his legs. Now hook your hands on your knees and squeeze your knees together. Every time your opponent exhales he tightens the hold.
I like it, because coming from a wrestling background I find myself getting headlocks frequently. It's simple, in that there aren't alot of complicated steps.
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Post by Vince on May 22, 2005 3:41:12 GMT -5
Stanimal,
I'm having a little trouble understanding what your describing. Do you mean you have your opponents back, and your legs are figure 4'd around him squeezing?
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Post by fogster on May 22, 2005 9:38:01 GMT -5
I, honestly, am not fussy. I'll take anything I can get and just be happy to win one, for a change.
I think there is something special about a choke, because it is a real fight finisher. People with broken limbs and high on crack cocaine may still want to continue. A sleeping or dead man won't.
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Post by stanimal on May 22, 2005 16:37:39 GMT -5
Vince,
I guess I didn't explain it well. Imagine starting in a scarf hold. You have the opponent's head and right arm trapped by your right arm. reach through and hook inside your right knee with your right hand. You've basically secured a loop with your arm grabbing your leg. now use your left arm to reach back and hook one of the opponent's legs at around the knee. grab your left knee with your left hand. you are now sitting, with your opponent's chest to your back. Keep your hands on your knees, and bring your knees together. it tightens the hold down increadibly. Bas Rutten call this the "Bas Rutten Neck Crank" even though it's not really a crank at all.
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Post by Misery on May 22, 2005 22:24:35 GMT -5
I am going to have to go with the DEADLY KIMURA LOCK, partly cause im real flexible, so people have a hard time getting me to tap with it... and partly cause its the only freakin move i can tap somebody in my guard with besides the occasional triangle choke (I like being on top)
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Post by hksambo on Jun 20, 2005 1:21:31 GMT -5
I love to look for bent arm locks from rubber guard. I think its because I can pull my leg to the back of my opponents head. Well I am also like 245lbs. Lol. I also like the rear naked choke and all leg locks(mostly the achilles)
Rob Voss
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Post by ArmyOfOne on Jul 22, 2005 20:01:45 GMT -5
double arm bar, when i'm on my back and both of his arms are trapped in my arm pit area and my feet are on his hips. Pull in your arms, arch your hips and get the tap.
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Post by puppymeister7 on Oct 8, 2005 11:01:49 GMT -5
RNC, because it can end the confrontation(Agree with Fogster's reasoning). I've seen people continue to fight even after tendons was torn by an armbar. Also like triangle chokes, but they seem more susceptable to bite counters and groin attacks counters.
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Post by danny on Feb 24, 2006 7:40:47 GMT -5
favs are " clock choke, ringside spine lock, umapalada (so easy to get) hell strangle". Thats me done.
Dan
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Post by victorparlati on Feb 25, 2006 20:41:42 GMT -5
Figure four neck crank (or choke)...whichever comes first...from the standing (or kneeling) front headlock position....and the double wristlock (kimura in jiu jitsu).
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Post by danny on Mar 1, 2006 8:14:56 GMT -5
Hey victorparlati. danny here can you post a pic of the type of kimura that you do please . cant figure it out from the post. thanx . Danny.
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Post by BillCogswell on Mar 1, 2006 21:22:21 GMT -5
danny, I'm not sure how often Victor comes ot the board but he is referring to what is called in Catch Wrestler the "Double Wristlock" which is the same technique with some slight mechanical differences as the BJJ "Kimura". Here is a picture of the double wristlock from standing and it is also done from other positions such as guard, side control, etc. and can be set-up from all positions: The differences between the common Kimura and Catch's Double Wristlock are in the grip. A catch practitioner will tend to grab the hand in order to twist the wrist some. What this does is take all the slack out of the arm and sort of winds up all the tissues and such so that when you enact the lock the pain and or damage comes on much quicker than the traditional method of this lock. A Catch practitioner will also use a full grip rather than a thumbless grip which helps keep "control" over the limb. There are also differences in the positional control during this lock but that's another subject.
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Post by victorparlati on Mar 8, 2006 17:35:02 GMT -5
Thanks Bill...good reply...No, I haven't been coming on the board that frequently as of yet.
Actually, what you started to hint at concerning positional control is one of the reasons why I like the double wristlock so much - it can be used from so many different positions...standing. kneeling, sitting, from on top in a cross chest position, from underneath while using a bottom scissor (the guard)....
Very versatile move - and one of those moves that is functional in another way: you can use it as a finisher if you already have "control" of his body by some sort of superior positioning - or possibly as a move to initate in order to try and actually "get" a good positional advantage.
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Post by migo on Apr 13, 2006 19:28:34 GMT -5
Triangle choke, I can get it from almost any position, and pull it off without trying or thinking about it at times - some people just put themselves into it and I have no choice but to lock it up I've become a bit reliant on it, so it was good when I got my calf bruised so badly that I couldn't do it, forced me to really look for other subs.
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Post by mike on May 22, 2006 12:27:03 GMT -5
The Mata Leo - Rear naked Choke. In my book when ever I see that one landed I can't help but noticed how owned the other guy is.
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Post by daileyc on May 22, 2006 21:44:21 GMT -5
I always roll with a plan and I change my plan every week or two. What I try to do is have 2-4 moves for each position already in my mind before I go roll and then try to work my plan. This way I get a chance to try new things and not keep running through stuff I am already good at. So I am always working something different.
Having said that, my favorite submissions are ones that double up as a submission/reversal/pin/control. Generally any hold where a figure-4 hook up is used can act as all four. Definately the double wrist lock and the reverse double wrist lock (top wrist lock) fit that category. Other wise, neck cranks, bent arm cranks, and toe holds are my "go-to's".
One I have been working lately which is pulling some very impressive results in the gym is the leg nelson (Hugh Leonard: Handbook of Wrestling) or the Ham Ride (Mark Hatmaker). It is getting both good control and submission results.
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Post by somboboyd on May 23, 2006 19:11:43 GMT -5
shoulder locks, neck cranks and leg locks of all variations. Mostly a leg lock man but shoulder locks are my favorite upper body locks.
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