johnr
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Feb 20, 2006 20:13:14 GMT -5
Post by johnr on Feb 20, 2006 20:13:14 GMT -5
I am new to this site and it looks great. I have a question. Why is it that politics are always involved in the Martial Arts?? I've been in the Martial Arts for about 15 years now, mixing it up in a few different styles. I am a member of a very large BJJ school who had breakaway of a affiliate. I have friends who train there. (at the affiliate). I told my inst. that I stopped by there the other day to watch the cla*s and he told me to stay away from them ! " Don't go there" he said. anyone ever have to deal with this?? It doesn't seem right! I'm kind of ticked off about it .
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Feb 20, 2006 20:24:42 GMT -5
Post by BillCogswell on Feb 20, 2006 20:24:42 GMT -5
This is a sad but true thing in most martial arts. I have both witnessed it and had it happen to me and it was a huge turnoff that made me leave a school once. That's what I like about the RMATA, we encourage you to train with anyone you can find and always keep an open mind! The martial arts should be about mutual benefit and sharing, not selfishness and ego.
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Feb 20, 2006 20:46:38 GMT -5
Post by somboboyd on Feb 20, 2006 20:46:38 GMT -5
Sadly this is not uncommon with BJJ schools for some reason. They are very 'close to the vest' group and if you leave and go to another school it is like you are a traitor or something. God help you if you break off and go your own way. Then you are anathema. I have a lot of BJJ friends and have trained with a bunch of BJJ peeps but they are a different breed. Some almost like a religion. "Don't have anything to do with those guys! They're the devil!" Kinda childish. I have always advocated cross training and learn what you can from whom you can with the time, money, and strength that you have as long as it furthers your personal goals in learning the truth in combat.
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Feb 20, 2006 20:47:25 GMT -5
Post by Vince on Feb 20, 2006 20:47:25 GMT -5
Hi John, Great question. It's too bad that the politics that exist within many martial artists and martial arts a*sociations are out there. Be sure and read through the "Philosophy" section of rmata.com for more on this. Particularly read this one if you are short on time; www.rmata.com/article-philosophy.html
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Feb 20, 2006 20:53:53 GMT -5
Post by somboboyd on Feb 20, 2006 20:53:53 GMT -5
On another note, I feel your pain. I had a similar experience and lost some friends as a result. I hope everything works out well for you.
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johnr
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Feb 21, 2006 6:51:06 GMT -5
Post by johnr on Feb 21, 2006 6:51:06 GMT -5
Thank you all for the replies. I will leave this school. My contract runs out in four months, I'll have to hang for that long, maybe! The former affiliate school is just down the street and half the price plus they have more to offer.
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Post by GrapplersGuildKs on Mar 2, 2006 8:07:52 GMT -5
It seems to me that there is alot of possesivness in the martial arts. One group teaches that their way is the best way, and so on. In our area, we have a very well known Jujitsu/Judo teacher that has produced alot of of high quality students, and national competitors. I approached this instructor out of respect for a couple of reasons. 1st I am the CHief of Police for our community, and second he and I are on good terms, and frequently have Martial Arts, and Christian/Church related conversations. When I told him I was starting up a training group, he brought some of his resources from his teaching materials over to the office one day, and gave them to me. He extended his offer to a*sist in any way I needed, and I asked him if he would work with me on my throwing techniques. I was amazed at the integrity and honor that this instructor showed to me, even though I dont even come close to the level of his knowledge. Our goals are the same, even though our styles of Jujitsu are not exactly the same. The principles are always going to be similar, and we both agree on that. I have seen in the past, that their are certain "Masters" That are very exclusive, and will only work with certain groups, while excluding others from events and tournaments. Its sad, but a reality. Just do what you feel you need to do, and dont worry if your rank is recognised by every form of martial art out there. Whats important to me is that I go home every night, and that the bad guy that fights never forgets me after he leaves in the ambulance, and then goes to jail A wise man once told me, "Go in the strength that you have" Be Safe JWB
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